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Rumors: Redskins targeting a way to land both Da’Ron Payne and Derrius Guice

By Jacob Camenker

BATON ROUGE, LA - OCTOBER 01: Derrius Guice #5 of the LSU Tigers runs for a first down against the Missouri Tigers at Tiger Stadium on October 1, 2016 in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. (Photo by Chris Graythen/Getty Images)
BATON ROUGE, LA - OCTOBER 01: Derrius Guice #5 of the LSU Tigers runs for a first down against the Missouri Tigers at Tiger Stadium on October 1, 2016 in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. (Photo by Chris Graythen/Getty Images) /
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ATLANTA, GA – JANUARY 08: Da’Ron Payne #94 of the Alabama Crimson Tide reacts to a play during the second quarter against the Georgia Bulldogs in the CFP National Championship presented by AT&T at Mercedes-Benz Stadium on January 8, 2018 in Atlanta, Georgia. (Photo by Kevin C. Cox/Getty Images)
ATLANTA, GA – JANUARY 08: Da’Ron Payne #94 of the Alabama Crimson Tide reacts to a play during the second quarter against the Georgia Bulldogs in the CFP National Championship presented by AT&T at Mercedes-Benz Stadium on January 8, 2018 in Atlanta, Georgia. (Photo by Kevin C. Cox/Getty Images) /

What it would take to get Payne and Guice

First, the Redskins would have to find a trade partner willing to give up a third round pick to get to the No. 13 pick. As we have previously outlined, that won’t necessarily be too difficult, but if the team wants to land Payne, they probably won’t be able to trade down past the No. 20 pick. If they’re lucky, a trade down to No. 23 with the Patriots could still let them get Payne, but that would be a major risk. So, they will have to focus on a partner in the teens for a potential third round trade up.

Perhaps one of the team’s few options to trade down with would be the Baltimore Ravens. The Ravens have the No. 13 pick, but they could be interested in moving up in the event that a top defensive back, linebacker, or quarterback slips. In this trade, the Redskins would get the No. 16 pick and the Ravens’ third round pick to get to that spot and still be in position to grab Payne.

The other option would be trading with the Arizona Cardinals at No. 15, but the only way that would make sense is if the Cardinals were trying to leapfrog a team trading up with the Packers to get a quarterback. But if that does happen, they could grab the No. 15 pick and a third rounder and still get Payne.

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The part of the scenario where the team trades down to get Payne isn’t the most difficult part of the scenario. The most difficult part is figuring out a way to get Derrius Guice. It’s possible that Guice could fall into the early stages of Round 2 along with Sony Michel, Ronald Jones, and Nick Chubb, but it’s also possible that he could go at the end of the first round. The Redskins would maybe have to trade into the final picks of Round 1 to be sure they can get Guice.

Perhaps the team could trade with the Patriots at No. 31, if the Patriots don’t trade up to get a quarterback. The Patriots are notorious for trading down, so the Redskins could offer their second round pick (44) and their newly acquired third rounder to match the demands of the Patriots. If Guice is on the board at that scenario a trade would make sense. Then, the team would land their top two targets, Payne and Guice, and then they could get a guard like Wyatt Teller at the start of Day 3 of the draft.

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This may be a crazy scenario, but it’s not out of the question. If the Redskins truly want these two players, they can make it happen. It’s just a matter of whether or not they can find trade partners and whether or not they can outbid other teams looking to move up. As the draft draws nearer, it will be interesting to watch this shake out. But for now, it’s looking clear that the Redskins do have interest in both Payne and Guice. It’s just a matter of whether or not they will have to choose one, or if they can somehow get both.

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