Comments on: Dancin’ with the Skins http://riggosrag.com/2008/07/21/dancin-with-the-skins/ A Washington Redskins Blog Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:21:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: REDSKINSBOY http://riggosrag.com/2008/07/21/dancin-with-the-skins/comment-page-1/#comment-1097 REDSKINSBOY Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:30:32 +0000 http://riggosrag.com/?p=382#comment-1097 TO TDCOWBOYS WERENT YOU GUYS SO HYPED UP WHEN YALL SIGNED ZACH THOMAS..............................................AND SECOND ONLY TWO BAD GUY HAVE HAD BAD SEASON WITH THE SKINS..........LLOYD(HES GONE) AND ARCHULETA(GONE IN 07) MARK BRUNELL SHOCKED YOU GUYS 14-13 AND MOSS AND KILLED YOU GUYS NUMEROUS TIMES IN HIS CAREER TO TDCOWBOYS WERENT YOU GUYS SO HYPED UP WHEN YALL SIGNED ZACH THOMAS……………………………………….AND SECOND ONLY TWO BAD GUY HAVE HAD BAD SEASON WITH THE SKINS……….LLOYD(HES GONE) AND ARCHULETA(GONE IN 07) MARK BRUNELL SHOCKED YOU GUYS 14-13 AND MOSS AND KILLED YOU GUYS NUMEROUS TIMES IN HIS CAREER

]]> By: TDCowboys http://riggosrag.com/2008/07/21/dancin-with-the-skins/comment-page-1/#comment-1096 TDCowboys Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:10:58 +0000 http://riggosrag.com/?p=382#comment-1096 I dont understand why you think my logic is flawed if you understand what Im saying about a bad track record and have' not made a decent argument to why Im wrong about that. Thats my whole point.  I would still take Taylor becasue he's a freak and what iv been trying to explain to you is that their is a high chance according to what iv seen from the skins in the past that Taylor may fall into the category as the players iv listed above.    It was more of a push and shove argument guy. Its not garunteed its just something  I noticed that I wanted to point out to a skins fan because I hate your kind. But I will drop it as of now...  I wouldn't worry about burdening the readers, becasue no one has been here since Monday afternoon besides me and you. If anything you should thank me becasue iv been a regular to your site, you may not like what I say most of the time, but its better than having nobody.... or an Eagles fan. Your Pal TDCowboys I dont understand why you think my logic is flawed if you understand what Im saying about a bad track record and have’ not made a decent argument to why Im wrong about that. Thats my whole point.
 I would still take Taylor becasue he’s a freak and what iv been trying to explain to you is that their is a high chance according to what iv seen from the skins in the past that Taylor may fall into the category as the players iv listed above.  
 It was more of a push and shove argument guy. Its not garunteed its just something  I noticed that I wanted to point out to a skins fan because I hate your kind. But I will drop it as of now…

 I wouldn’t worry about burdening the readers, becasue no one has been here since Monday afternoon besides me and you. If anything you should thank me becasue iv been a regular to your site, you may not like what I say most of the time, but its better than having nobody…. or an Eagles fan.

Your Pal
TDCowboys

]]> By: Redskins Guy http://riggosrag.com/2008/07/21/dancin-with-the-skins/comment-page-1/#comment-1095 Redskins Guy Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:02:41 +0000 http://riggosrag.com/?p=382#comment-1095 Okay, clearly there's a communication barrier. I aknowledge what you're saying. We have a bad track record. I've understood that all along. I still maintain your logic is flawed. I've attempted to explain myself to you but it still seems to be going over your head so I give up. Re-read my earlier posts if you like and try to piece them together, but I won't burden readers with any more arguments when we just seem to be going in circles. Okay, clearly there’s a communication barrier. I aknowledge what you’re saying. We have a bad track record.
I’ve understood that all along. I still maintain your logic is flawed. I’ve attempted to explain myself to you but it still seems to be going over your head so I give up. Re-read my earlier posts if you like and try to piece them together, but I won’t burden readers with any more arguments when we just seem to be going in circles.

]]> By: TDCowboys http://riggosrag.com/2008/07/21/dancin-with-the-skins/comment-page-1/#comment-1094 TDCowboys Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:07:17 +0000 http://riggosrag.com/?p=382#comment-1094 RG Why must you make this so difficult buddy Now we get to watch Taylor deteriorate with the Skins just like every other player they pick up. It happens Every time…” You only underlined half of that quote..thats what I was talking about. I was not talking about what you just posted, that is just history for my argument. I was trying to point out that you did not highlight the part of the sentence that says "just like every other player they pick up. It happens Every time…”   Thats what my argument was about, Its was based on what i have said a million times "You guys have a terrible track record of bringing in talent and having it somehow dwindle or not meet expectations in your system…"  Hope that helps clear up your miss-understanding.. RG
Why must you make this so difficult buddy

Now we get to watch Taylor deteriorate with the Skins just like every other player they pick up. It happens Every time…”

You only underlined half of that quote..thats what I was talking about. I was not talking about what you just posted, that is just history for my argument. I was trying to point out that you did not highlight the part of the sentence that says “just like every other player they pick up. It happens Every time…” 
 Thats what my argument was about, Its was based on what i have said a million times “You guys have a terrible track record of bringing in talent and having it somehow dwindle or not meet expectations in your system…” 
Hope that helps clear up your miss-understanding..

]]> By: Redskins Guy http://riggosrag.com/2008/07/21/dancin-with-the-skins/comment-page-1/#comment-1093 Redskins Guy Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:38:34 +0000 http://riggosrag.com/?p=382#comment-1093 <p>The last part of your quote is simply siting specific examples of people you consider busts.  <em>"look what happened to all their pick-ups- Moss-(takes himself out of games ahahaha)- Lloyd -(ahahahaha)- Carter-( has yet to live up to the hype) Brunell-(you already know this story) and last but not least-Randall El-(the best QB on the team) It seems that Portis has been the only consitant player the skins have picked up rushing for 1000 yards and lots of cross dressing." </em>I don't really understand how including that portion of your quote sheds any light at all to the topic of Jason Taylor, unless you think there's some mysterious curse that makes all Redskins players end up being a bust.  But whatever.  It's a tedious argument and I surrender.  You're right TD.  Your logic is clearly irrefutable, if someone incomprehensible. You win.</p> The last part of your quote is simply siting specific examples of people you consider busts. 

“look what happened to all their pick-ups- Moss-(takes himself out of games ahahaha)- Lloyd -(ahahahaha)- Carter-( has yet to live up to the hype) Brunell-(you already know this story) and last but not least-Randall El-(the best QB on the team) It seems that Portis has been the only consitant player the skins have picked up rushing for 1000 yards and lots of cross dressing.”

I don’t really understand how including that portion of your quote sheds any light at all to the topic of Jason Taylor, unless you think there’s some mysterious curse that makes all Redskins players end up being a bust.  But whatever.  It’s a tedious argument and I surrender.  You’re right TD.  Your logic is clearly irrefutable, if someone incomprehensible.
You win.

]]> By: TDCowboys http://riggosrag.com/2008/07/21/dancin-with-the-skins/comment-page-1/#comment-1081 TDCowboys Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:01:34 +0000 http://riggosrag.com/?p=382#comment-1081 Your not understanding what my point is RG!!!! Im not backing down from anything I said, I dont know how else to explain it to you bub. Taylor is a good pick up, I wish we got him. but you bringing up my quote and only underlining half of it .. shows me you dont get it. "Now we get to watch Taylor deteriorate with the Skins just like every other player they pick up. It happens Every time…”   The last part of my quote is why i think he will deteriorate! But you forgot to highlight it. Your attacking my argument based on that you think Im saying Taylor is going to just overall deteriorate and be a bust... NEWSFLASH.. Im a Cowboys fan bro, Its my right to hate the skins and along with that comes me finding flaws and bad statistics about my rival. You guys have a terrible track record of bringing in talent and having it somehow dwindle or not meet expectations in your system...Thats what history tells us. Im pretty sure iv stated that it was a great pickup and I believe you had to get him or youd be in trouble. Read all of my comments and you will see that I never said plainly "I wish we had taylor, but hes gonna be bust."  And yes RG the mighty Skins organization did a great job evaluating and figuring out that maybe adding a future hall of famer would help your team. GENIUS!! Your not understanding what my point is RG!!!!
Im not backing down from anything I said, I dont know how else to explain it to you bub. Taylor is a good pick up, I wish we got him. but you bringing up my quote and only underlining half of it .. shows me you dont get it.

“Now we get to watch Taylor deteriorate with the Skins just like every other player they pick up. It happens Every time…”  
The last part of my quote is why i think he will deteriorate! But you forgot to highlight it. Your attacking my argument based on that you think Im saying Taylor is going to just overall deteriorate and be a bust…

NEWSFLASH.. Im a Cowboys fan bro, Its my right to hate the skins and along with that comes me finding flaws and bad statistics about my rival. You guys have a terrible track record of bringing in talent and having it somehow dwindle or not meet expectations in your system…Thats what history tells us. Im pretty sure iv stated that it was a great pickup and I believe you had to get him or youd be in trouble. Read all of my comments and you will see that I never said plainly “I wish we had taylor, but hes gonna be bust.” 

And yes RG the mighty Skins organization did a great job evaluating and figuring out that maybe adding a future hall of famer would help your team. GENIUS!!

]]> By: Redskins Guy http://riggosrag.com/2008/07/21/dancin-with-the-skins/comment-page-1/#comment-1092 Redskins Guy Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:47:43 +0000 http://riggosrag.com/?p=382#comment-1092 I love how I'm hiding from facts by quoting YOUR ACTUAL WORDS. How deceptive and two-faced of me to actually expect you to own up to the things you actually wrote! Your logic is still flawed however.  If you wish the cowboys had got him, but expect that his skills will somehow diminish more because the Redskins got him and not the Cowboys, that's really just absurd.  He's not going to deteriorate any faster with us than he would with you guys.  There's no special system for defensive linemen that's going to cause him to wear out faster with us than with them. And if you understood statistics, you'd understand that even if you flipped a coin and got heads 99 times in a row, the chance of it being heads the 100th time is STILL 50 percent.  Bringing up past failures as a means to predict future success only works when you are evaluating the level of talent that the team is bringing in.  Since you're apparently saying that he is in fact a good pickup, you're saying the Redskins organization did a good job evaluating talent in this case. If you think Taylor is a good pick up, then he's a good pickup. The fact that he's going to washington instead of Dallas should have no bearing on that. Or very little at least. I love how I’m hiding from facts by quoting YOUR ACTUAL WORDS. How deceptive and two-faced of me to actually expect you to own up to the things you actually wrote!

Your logic is still flawed however.  If you wish the cowboys had got him, but expect that his skills will somehow diminish more because the Redskins got him and not the Cowboys, that’s really just absurd.  He’s not going to deteriorate any faster with us than he would with you guys.  There’s no special system for defensive linemen that’s going to cause him to wear out faster with us than with them.

And if you understood statistics, you’d understand that even if you flipped a coin and got heads 99 times in a row, the chance of it being heads the 100th time is STILL 50 percent. 
Bringing up past failures as a means to predict future success only works when you are evaluating the level of talent that the team is bringing in.  Since you’re apparently saying that he is in fact a good pickup, you’re saying the Redskins organization did a good job evaluating talent in this case.

If you think Taylor is a good pick up, then he’s a good pickup. The fact that he’s going to washington instead of Dallas should have no bearing on that. Or very little at least.

]]> By: TDCowboys http://riggosrag.com/2008/07/21/dancin-with-the-skins/comment-page-1/#comment-1080 TDCowboys Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:35:29 +0000 http://riggosrag.com/?p=382#comment-1080 Again you miss the point as usual. I thought I was pretty clear but I see that your trying to hide from the facts as usual. Yes you read correctly I do wish we got him becasue hes good.  But RG my argument was that its a fact the skins have a horrible track record of bringing in talented players who dwindle under the"SKINS" system. So if our gonna bring up my own quotes to use them against me then please make sure they help your point not make you look handicapped. I Noticed that you did not highlight the rest of my quote. It supports my argument that Taylor is good but will most likely deteriorate under the skins system. (Brunell,Moss,EL,Carter,Lloyd,Patten,etc) So again let me type this in a way you can understand.. I Wish we got him because hes very talented. Since the skins got him it is very likley that he will dwindle under their system just like every other player they pick up. Read it twice and slowly so you understand.. Again you miss the point as usual. I thought I was pretty clear but I see that your trying to hide from the facts as usual.
Yes you read correctly I do wish we got him becasue hes good. 
But RG my argument was that its a fact the skins have a horrible track record of bringing in talented players who dwindle under the”SKINS” system. So if our gonna bring up my own quotes to use them against me then please make sure they help your point not make you look handicapped. I Noticed that you did not highlight the rest of my quote. It supports my argument that Taylor is good but will most likely deteriorate under the skins system. (Brunell,Moss,EL,Carter,Lloyd,Patten,etc)
So again let me type this in a way you can understand..
I Wish we got him because hes very talented. Since the skins got him it is very likley that he will dwindle under their system just like every other player they pick up. Read it twice and slowly so you understand..

]]> By: Redskins Guy http://riggosrag.com/2008/07/21/dancin-with-the-skins/comment-page-1/#comment-1079 Redskins Guy Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:24:43 +0000 http://riggosrag.com/?p=382#comment-1079 <cite>"TDCowboys Says: </cite> <p>First off let me start with saying<em><strong> </strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">I wish we got him</span></em>...<SNIP> This is a <span style="text-decoration: underline;">typical Redskin move</span>...<SNIP>...Now <span style="text-decoration: underline;">we get to watch Taylor deteriorate with the Skins</span> just like every other player they pick up. It happens Every time..." What part of "Talking out of both sides of your mouth" don't you understand TD? :) You wish you got a player who's going to deteriorate and be a bust? That makes no sense to anyone outside of TDCowboy-land.</p> “TDCowboys Says:

First off let me start with saying I wish we got him…<SNIP> This is a typical Redskin move…<SNIP>…Now we get to watch Taylor deteriorate with the Skins just like every other player they pick up. It happens Every time…”

What part of “Talking out of both sides of your mouth” don’t you understand TD? :) You wish you got a player who’s going to deteriorate and be a bust? That makes no sense to anyone outside of TDCowboy-land.

]]> By: TDCowboys http://riggosrag.com/2008/07/21/dancin-with-the-skins/comment-page-1/#comment-1091 TDCowboys Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:51:46 +0000 http://riggosrag.com/?p=382#comment-1091 How did i bash the trade?? Oh you mean by stating facts about the skins terrible history of paying to much for a player that somehow seems to decline in talent when he comes to Washington. Thats the truth dont get all salty at me.. Yes I do wish we got him, BUT we dont need him. Havin Taylor playing along side of Ware, Ellis and Spencer would have been fun to watch..But im certainly not bitter that we didnt trade a 2nd and 6th round pick for a very talented but has Injury and Retiremnt looming over his head because of age.. And the only reason Shockey was "worth" more is becasue hes way younger, so dont stress about that. Your right you guys had to make a move I honestly believe you had no choice but to get him, or you were gonna be in big trouble. How did i bash the trade?? Oh you mean by stating facts about the skins terrible history of paying to much for a player that somehow seems to decline in talent when he comes to Washington. Thats the truth dont get all salty at me.. Yes I do wish we got him, BUT we dont need him. Havin Taylor playing along side of Ware, Ellis and Spencer would have been fun to watch..But im certainly not bitter that we didnt trade a 2nd and 6th round pick for a very talented but has Injury and Retiremnt looming over his head because of age.. And the only reason Shockey was “worth” more is becasue hes way younger, so dont stress about that. Your right you guys had to make a move I honestly believe you had no choice but to get him, or you were gonna be in big trouble.

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