Dancin' with the Skins


What a roller coaster ride for Redskins fans!

The season started out as a disaster.  We had players dropping like flies.  Phillip Daniels went down, possibly with a career ending knee injury. Promising defensive end Alex Buzbee also went down with a ruptured Achilles tendon.  Fred Smoot went down with a sprain that fortunately doesn’t seem to be too bad.  I was starting to have flashbacks of the infamous body bag game in Philly.  Not only were two of the injuries serious, but they were all in positions where we could ill afford to lose anyone.

But good ol’ Danny was not about to allow his season to be ruined in the first day of training camp. He went out and pulled the trigger on a trade that brings Jason Taylor from Miami to the Nation’s Capital.

The trade forces us to give up a second round pick in 2009 and a sixth round in 2010.  Furthermore, Jason Taylor claims that he’s willing to play for the final two years of his contract without negotiating a new deal.  Despite media criticism, we had the cap room tucked away for a rainy day and now we’ve got a potential game-changing player.

Let’s hope we got our serious injuries out of the way and that this first day isn’t a harbigner of more to come.  I’m excited at the potential of Jason Taylor, especially now that he’s talking about two years and the trade price tag is a little lower.  With the injury situation, I think we needed to pull the trigger on a deal somewhere.  We were already thin to begin with.

In other news, in case you missed it, all of the Redskins draft picks are signed and attending now that Fred Davis has signed.  There are no reports that anyone slept in, which in itself is a good sign for Davis. 

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  • WestCoastSkins

    First Post. This thread will not be tainted by cowgirl supporters.

    Excellent trade. Actually I think the sixth rounder was too much though. This automatically upgrades our line by leaps and bounds. Now to just see what he can do on the LE of the line.

  • number_9

    4-12 is looking more like it for you guys hahahaha.

  • G_from_Maine

    Congrats Skins fans. As a life long Phins fan I’ve watched JT play on a weekly basis.  You’re getting  a game changing defensive player and we get what a rebuilding team needs.

  • TDCowboys

    First off let me start with saying I wish we got him BUTT Cowboys fans need not worry because of the following..

    This is a typical Redskin move, We were fools to think theyd hang onto to some draft picks 2nd and 6th thats alot for a guy who will retire next year. Now we get to watch Taylor deteriorate with the Skins just like every other player they pick up. It happens Every time, look what happened to all their pick-ups- Moss-(takes himself out of games ahahaha)- Lloyd -(ahahahaha)- Carter-( has yet to live up to the hype) Brunell-(you already know this story) and last but not least-Randall El-(the best QB on the team) It seems that Portis has been the only consitant player the skins have picked up rushing for 1000 yards and lots of cross dressing

  • http://Phinphanatic.com Brian Miller

    While not as bad as the rape we put on the Cowboys for Fasano and Adoyle I think we got the better of this deal.  Still, I am not so sure that JT puts the Skins on top of the division.  Dallas will likely win the division and the Giants and Skins will fight for the 2 spot.  Still, I think the trade is good for the Skins in that he is a beast when his head is in it.  I will miss him for sure…but am glad to have the 2nd rounder.  Call in and discuss this with me tomorrow at finsradio.net at 8pm eastern time Tuesday night.  Your all invited to talk about this trade.

  • http://riggosrag.com/ Redskins Guy

    Translation of TDCowboys post: I wish we had him, but since we didn’t get him I’m going to assume it’s a bad trade that won’t work out.

    Yeah, we probably paid a little too much for him, but you have to pay a price when you’re in a bad situation because of injuries. He’s made some assurances that he’ll be playing more than one year. I think taking him was the right move.

  • http://RiggosRag David

    I don’t know why people insist that we paid too much for him.  If Jeremy Shockey goes for a 2nd and a 5th, a 2nd and a 6th is a steal for a future hall of famer with no personality flaws.  Shockey will disrupt and whine is way through New Orleans like he did in New York.  We should start a poll: who will Shockey call a homo first?

    Essentially, the market has been set for pro bowl caliber players at a 2nd rounder and change.  After the 4th rounder it took to get Moss last year, teams have realized they have to up the price.

    -DW

  • http://riggosrag.com/ Redskins Guy

    The Redskins deal doesn’t become good just because the Saints made an even worse deal.  I think we made the right move, but I don’t like blowing high round draft picks for guys who will give us — at best — two years.

    I can’t deny that I’m a little giddy at the prospect of having an actual pass rush though.  God I hope Jason Taylor keeps his head in the game and comes back to his old form.

  • WestCoastSkins

    RG I was thinking the same thing about TD. You say you wish you had picked up that player but then in the same post you begin to bash the trade. I think someone is just upset his team didnt get him.

  • Staubach

    Upgrade in talent, downgrade in manliness :-)

  • http://insidetheiggles.com/ Ian | Inside the Iggles

    Skins definitely overpaid. I guess they had to though, since after those injuries they literally had the worst DE’s in the NFL. This reminds me of the Bruce Smith signing. They are getting a great player at the tail end of his career, instead of in his prime.

  • TDCowboys

    How did i bash the trade?? Oh you mean by stating facts about the skins terrible history of paying to much for a player that somehow seems to decline in talent when he comes to Washington. Thats the truth dont get all salty at me.. Yes I do wish we got him, BUT we dont need him. Havin Taylor playing along side of Ware, Ellis and Spencer would have been fun to watch..But im certainly not bitter that we didnt trade a 2nd and 6th round pick for a very talented but has Injury and Retiremnt looming over his head because of age.. And the only reason Shockey was “worth” more is becasue hes way younger, so dont stress about that. Your right you guys had to make a move I honestly believe you had no choice but to get him, or you were gonna be in big trouble.

  • http://riggosrag.com/ Redskins Guy

    “TDCowboys Says:

    First off let me start with saying I wish we got him…<SNIP> This is a typical Redskin move…<SNIP>…Now we get to watch Taylor deteriorate with the Skins just like every other player they pick up. It happens Every time…”

    What part of “Talking out of both sides of your mouth” don’t you understand TD? :) You wish you got a player who’s going to deteriorate and be a bust? That makes no sense to anyone outside of TDCowboy-land.

  • TDCowboys

    Again you miss the point as usual. I thought I was pretty clear but I see that your trying to hide from the facts as usual.
    Yes you read correctly I do wish we got him becasue hes good. 
    But RG my argument was that its a fact the skins have a horrible track record of bringing in talented players who dwindle under the”SKINS” system. So if our gonna bring up my own quotes to use them against me then please make sure they help your point not make you look handicapped. I Noticed that you did not highlight the rest of my quote. It supports my argument that Taylor is good but will most likely deteriorate under the skins system. (Brunell,Moss,EL,Carter,Lloyd,Patten,etc)
    So again let me type this in a way you can understand..
    I Wish we got him because hes very talented. Since the skins got him it is very likley that he will dwindle under their system just like every other player they pick up. Read it twice and slowly so you understand..

  • http://riggosrag.com/ Redskins Guy

    I love how I’m hiding from facts by quoting YOUR ACTUAL WORDS. How deceptive and two-faced of me to actually expect you to own up to the things you actually wrote!

    Your logic is still flawed however.  If you wish the cowboys had got him, but expect that his skills will somehow diminish more because the Redskins got him and not the Cowboys, that’s really just absurd.  He’s not going to deteriorate any faster with us than he would with you guys.  There’s no special system for defensive linemen that’s going to cause him to wear out faster with us than with them.

    And if you understood statistics, you’d understand that even if you flipped a coin and got heads 99 times in a row, the chance of it being heads the 100th time is STILL 50 percent. 
    Bringing up past failures as a means to predict future success only works when you are evaluating the level of talent that the team is bringing in.  Since you’re apparently saying that he is in fact a good pickup, you’re saying the Redskins organization did a good job evaluating talent in this case.

    If you think Taylor is a good pick up, then he’s a good pickup. The fact that he’s going to washington instead of Dallas should have no bearing on that. Or very little at least.

  • TDCowboys

    Your not understanding what my point is RG!!!!
    Im not backing down from anything I said, I dont know how else to explain it to you bub. Taylor is a good pick up, I wish we got him. but you bringing up my quote and only underlining half of it .. shows me you dont get it.

    “Now we get to watch Taylor deteriorate with the Skins just like every other player they pick up. It happens Every time…”  
    The last part of my quote is why i think he will deteriorate! But you forgot to highlight it. Your attacking my argument based on that you think Im saying Taylor is going to just overall deteriorate and be a bust…

    NEWSFLASH.. Im a Cowboys fan bro, Its my right to hate the skins and along with that comes me finding flaws and bad statistics about my rival. You guys have a terrible track record of bringing in talent and having it somehow dwindle or not meet expectations in your system…Thats what history tells us. Im pretty sure iv stated that it was a great pickup and I believe you had to get him or youd be in trouble. Read all of my comments and you will see that I never said plainly “I wish we had taylor, but hes gonna be bust.” 

    And yes RG the mighty Skins organization did a great job evaluating and figuring out that maybe adding a future hall of famer would help your team. GENIUS!!

  • http://riggosrag.com/ Redskins Guy

    The last part of your quote is simply siting specific examples of people you consider busts. 

    “look what happened to all their pick-ups- Moss-(takes himself out of games ahahaha)- Lloyd -(ahahahaha)- Carter-( has yet to live up to the hype) Brunell-(you already know this story) and last but not least-Randall El-(the best QB on the team) It seems that Portis has been the only consitant player the skins have picked up rushing for 1000 yards and lots of cross dressing.”

    I don’t really understand how including that portion of your quote sheds any light at all to the topic of Jason Taylor, unless you think there’s some mysterious curse that makes all Redskins players end up being a bust.  But whatever.  It’s a tedious argument and I surrender.  You’re right TD.  Your logic is clearly irrefutable, if someone incomprehensible.
    You win.

  • TDCowboys

    RG
    Why must you make this so difficult buddy

    Now we get to watch Taylor deteriorate with the Skins just like every other player they pick up. It happens Every time…”

    You only underlined half of that quote..thats what I was talking about. I was not talking about what you just posted, that is just history for my argument. I was trying to point out that you did not highlight the part of the sentence that says “just like every other player they pick up. It happens Every time…” 
     Thats what my argument was about, Its was based on what i have said a million times “You guys have a terrible track record of bringing in talent and having it somehow dwindle or not meet expectations in your system…” 
    Hope that helps clear up your miss-understanding..

  • http://riggosrag.com/ Redskins Guy

    Okay, clearly there’s a communication barrier. I aknowledge what you’re saying. We have a bad track record.
    I’ve understood that all along. I still maintain your logic is flawed. I’ve attempted to explain myself to you but it still seems to be going over your head so I give up. Re-read my earlier posts if you like and try to piece them together, but I won’t burden readers with any more arguments when we just seem to be going in circles.

  • TDCowboys

    I dont understand why you think my logic is flawed if you understand what Im saying about a bad track record and have’ not made a decent argument to why Im wrong about that. Thats my whole point.
     I would still take Taylor becasue he’s a freak and what iv been trying to explain to you is that their is a high chance according to what iv seen from the skins in the past that Taylor may fall into the category as the players iv listed above.  
     It was more of a push and shove argument guy. Its not garunteed its just something  I noticed that I wanted to point out to a skins fan because I hate your kind. But I will drop it as of now…

     I wouldn’t worry about burdening the readers, becasue no one has been here since Monday afternoon besides me and you. If anything you should thank me becasue iv been a regular to your site, you may not like what I say most of the time, but its better than having nobody…. or an Eagles fan.

    Your Pal
    TDCowboys

  • REDSKINSBOY

    TO TDCOWBOYS WERENT YOU GUYS SO HYPED UP WHEN YALL SIGNED ZACH THOMAS……………………………………….AND SECOND ONLY TWO BAD GUY HAVE HAD BAD SEASON WITH THE SKINS……….LLOYD(HES GONE) AND ARCHULETA(GONE IN 07) MARK BRUNELL SHOCKED YOU GUYS 14-13 AND MOSS AND KILLED YOU GUYS NUMEROUS TIMES IN HIS CAREER